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		<description><![CDATA[A weekly recap of our beloved RedSox will be posted um&#8230; Weekly. With a drunken vulgar twist of course. Let&#8217;s rant!! Normally I would go off on things about this team I dislike. Such as I did in this early season rant. Except I&#8217;m lost for hate words at the moment. I can&#8217;t hate on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A weekly recap of our beloved RedSox will be posted um&#8230; Weekly. With a drunken vulgar twist of course.</p>
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<p>Let&#8217;s rant!!</p>
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<p>Normally I would go off on things about this team I dislike. Such as I did <a title="Fucking RedSox" href="http://www.afewtoomany.com/?p=38" target="_blank">in this early season rant.</a></p>
<p>Except I&#8217;m lost for hate words at the moment. I can&#8217;t hate on Papi. Even though he&#8217;s in the worst slump I&#8217;ve ever seen a slugger be in. This one actually hurts too much to talk about. The man pretty much won us the championship in 04 on his own. Essentially changing the face of this franchise from lovable losers/underachievers. To their hated status of team to beat, with the most obnoxious, overzealous fans on the planet. I do know that if this was NY, Papi would be boo&#8217;d every time he struck, or grounded out. Once again proving that while our fans may be dumb. We at least have more respect, admiration, and loyalty than those dirty NY fucks.</p>
<p>While I could write all day about how much I hate the Yanks and their fans. I think I&#8217;ll dedicate this post to our own, pink hat wearing, card carrying, band wagon excuses for fans.  Below are actual comments found  on sites such as boston.com, mlbtraderumors.com, and redsox.com. <em>( Not all of our fans are dumb, and this is not an accurate representation of the Nation. Also the humor in this article is intended for people who fallow baseball and further more the RedSox.)</em></p>
<h2>On the decline of Ortiz:</h2>
<p><span style="color: #0000FF;">Posted By: 26xwsc</span><br />
<span style="color: #FFFFFF;">Hey Popi, you STINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span></p>
<p>And:</p>
<p>Texing Manny, Texing Manny??? Wheres that &#8220;spinach&#8221; you goin to send me???? Big Popeye</p>
<p><span style="color: #FF6600;"><strong><br />
Great insight 26xwsc, you really showed them. (To be fair, almost all the other comments were good for once. For once!)<br />
</strong></span></p>
<h2>On the upcoming Sox Yanks series:</h2>
<p><span style="color: #0000FF;">Posted by: captaincar</span><br />
<span style="color: #FFFFFF;">&#8220;The question is backwards.It should be read&#8221;Can The Red Sox play with The Yankees&#8221;I say no&#8230;.We don&#8217;t have one stinkin player who can drive in runs amd Mike Loyal plays 3rd base like he&#8217;s planted in a flower pot and he&#8217;s going to be in the history books as hitting into the most dp&#8217;s ever.!&#8230;There is NO SS yet we have 3 people getting paid to do it.Mark Texiera is the best player in baseball unless it&#8217;s Albert Pujols.There you are rich owners.Go after that guy.Of course he&#8217;s used to being a &#8216;homer&#8217; to the most knowlegdable fans in the world in St Louis.Our vanted pitching staff is 2.5 deep.I give Wakefield a solid 1/2 but the others are&#8221;pickem&#8221; after Beckett &amp;<br />
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><br />
Dear captaincar, I like the part about the flower pot. Are you a florist? And your right, while Jason Bay is  tied for first in RBI&#8217;s , he is certainly not &#8220;one stinkin player&#8221;. Also, I&#8217;m not quite sure what &#8220;vanted&#8221; is, but that Mike Loyal pun was  so funny HAHA.  It&#8217;s funny cuz we were loyal to him, and it sounds like his last name Lowell. I , not being as gifted in the fine arts of comedy as you. Would have gone with something like Mike ( sucks as bad as Lowell MA) Lowell. That&#8217;s funny cuz Lowell is a city in Massachusetts. What do you think?  I would also comment on the Pujols portion of your soon to be best selling novel. But sadly, I must admit I did not understand fully what you were trying to say. You must be some sort of literary genius with vocabulary and grammar greater than that of  Shakspeare himself.<br />
</strong></span></p>
<h2>In response to an article on DiceK&#8217;s struggles. With another user saying we can&#8217;t trade Duce because of his no trade clause:</h2>
<p><span style="color: #0000FF;">Posted by: GhostofBon</span><br />
<span style="color: #FFFFFF;">Restructure his contract. Happens all the time. Maybe the Dodgers will take him even up for, yes, Manny, who&#8217;ll power Red Sox Nation through the second half. The Sox ain&#8217;t funny anymore, and the Nation&#8217;s alleged passion has nothing to do with over-ANALyzing. Relax, we&#8217;re not talking about Dennis Lamp here.<br />
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><br />
Dear GhostofBon, the RedSox will NOT restructure Dice&#8217;s contract. Not only is he an above average pitcher, with obvious above average talent. He  is solely responsible for the surplus of Japanese players we have since acquired. Okajima and Saito are steals in the pen. Plus, as seen with young prospects such as<a title="TAZAWA!!" href="http://www.soxprospects.com/players/tazawa-junichi.htm" target="_blank"> Zunichi Tazawa</a>. Boston is now the hotspot for Japanese talent.  Tazawa was offered more money by 3 other teams, and yet chose to sign a Minor League contract with Boston.<br />
</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><br />
Now&#8230;  did you actually just fucking say trade DiceK straight up for Manny??? Are you fucking retarded?  DiceK will make 52 million over 6 seasons with the Sox. You do the math, that is less than half of what the Dodgers pay for an aging, ovary bearing <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">or steroid using</span> Manny Ramirez. Who let me remind you, ran himself out of Boston with childish antics brought on by the greed of himself, and his soulless half  demon agent Scott Boras.<br />
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<span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><br />
I do however agree that we are indeed NOT talking about <a title="Dennis Lamp Bitches" href="http://www.nerdbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/lamp-dennis_1.jpg" target="_blank">Dennis Lamp</a>.<br />
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<h2>On the possible trade for Orlando Cabrera:</h2>
<p><span style="color: #0000FF;">Posted By: zeppelin3593</span><br />
<span style="color: #FFFFFF;">Theo, stop going after/mentioning average and quick fix shortstops ,its a couple of weeks until lowrie gets back and if you want a shortstop just go get hanley.marlins cant compete hanley for bowden,bard,masterson (replace bard with bucholtz if needed) marlins need pitching you can throw lowrie in there also but it fixes the ortiz production problem or at least adds a power bat i think it works although im wondering if pedroia -hanley ever were part of the same infield in the minors if so that would help ease the transition, maybe its just a dream scenario but i dont want gonzalez and the indians would charge far too much for v-mart<br />
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><br />
Dear zeppelin3593, I agree that getting Hanley would be the bees knees. I&#8217;m pretty sure the Marlins won&#8217;t give him up for at minimum, one more year due to a steep increase of salary in the later years. Even when available he will be recruited as a corner outfielder, possibly center if he shows great range. With that said, the Marlins are notoriously stingy with trades. It would take at the very least 3 top tier prospects, and maybe some lesser players/cash considerations. All of that adds up to a player the Sox will most likely not even try for.<br />
</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><br />
I&#8217;m sorry to hear that you don&#8217;t want Gonzales. Who would possibly want the MLB leader in homeruns this year? I also agree that the Indians will want too much for Victor Martinez, he&#8217;s only the SECOND best offensive catcher in baseball.<br />
</strong></span></p>
<h2>Some Gems from a trade talk forum. Absolutely priceless ideas:</h2>
<p><span style="color: #0000FF;">Posted By: DirtyWaterBeatdown</span><br />
<span style="color: #FFFFFF;">Lugo is open to playing second base. And he might be a player there. Don&#8217;t discount that. The Sox can&#8217;t try that because they have Pedroia. Having more time to field the ball and less of a distance for the throw makes a HUGE difference and takes a lot of pressure off. I think a lot of Lugo&#8217;s problem is the jitters. He seems to flinch a bit sometimes when he&#8217;s fielding or throwing the ball. Put him at second in a town that&#8217;s a little more laid back and he might be a good player. And if the Sox eat his contract then someone can try out that idea for free. There&#8217;s value in that. The guy can steal 30 bases, and he can hit. Just because we&#8217;re sour on him now doesn&#8217;t mean that it couldn&#8217;t work out in a different situation for him. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000FF;">Posted By: DirtyWaterBeatdown</span><br />
<span style="color: #FFFFFF;">They&#8217;ve got money, so they should deal Lugo to the Nationals (and pay 90% of his salary) for Nick Johnson. Now. That gives Big Papi another kick in the butt, and doesn&#8217;t cost much personnel-wise. The Nats could make Lugo their second baseman and leadoff guy. Nick Johnson would be a solid #3 hitter, while he&#8217;s healthy, which should take us to the trade deadline&#8230;</span></p>
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Dear DirtyWaterBeatdown, Congratulations on being the dumbest member of RedSox Nation.  Yes, it is possible that Lugo could play second base. It &#8216;s also possible that I could sleep with Jessica Alba. Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t see either happening&#8230; EVER! I also find Lugo being able to steal 30 bases an absolute knee slapper. If he steals 30 bases over the course of the next 2 seasons, I&#8217;ll allow you, not me. To have all my sleeping (intercourse)  rights with Jessica Alba.  No strings attached.<br />
</strong></span><br />
<span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><br />
How about that trade you proposed too? Your giant brain again, twice in the same article has fathomed up what seems to be a stroke of pure genius. The trade of the century some might call it. Lets give the worst player on our team, for a legit number three batter. Brilliant!! Why did Theo not think of that? You sir, have my vote for next GM of the Boston RedSox.<br />
</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000FF;">Posted By: Joe Morgan</span><br />
<span style="color: #FFFFFF;">Maybe they could package Lugo (who has value!) and Green and pick up a prospect even better than Marte was then flip that prospect (along with Kotteras, I guess, to keep the parallel going) for a player even better than Crisp. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><br />
Dear Joe_Morgan, Yes, lets trade 2 players, whome despite your quote &#8220;have NO TradeValue!!!&#8221; And get a prospect &#8220;better than Marte&#8221; and then flip him for a player &#8220;even better than Coco Crisp&#8221;(am I reading this right?).  All kidding aside, why is your scale based on Marte and Crisp? Why not trade these two worthless players for Hanley Ramirez, then flip him for Albert Pujols? Sounds perfect (Dialing Theo&#8217;s personal number shaking with anticipation).  You are clearly no the real Joe Morgan.  But speaking of Hanley&#8230;<br />
</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000FF;">Posted By: SoxFan</span><br />
<span style="color: #FFFFFF;">Maybe its time to give up a good starting pitcher prospect, Lugo &amp; a back up minor league player (prospect) of their choice to the Marlins for the chance to get Hanley Ramirez back. I think its well worth it!!!!!!!!! For example Buchholz, Lugo &amp; Bailey or Carter in exchange for Hanley Ramirez </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><br />
Dear SoxFan, Why choose Buchholz , Lugo, and Bailey? Lets make it just Lugo. Or maybe Lugo and Green. DirtyWaterBeatdown and Joe_Morgan will surely back me up in this decision.  I see no flaw. Do you think maybe we&#8217;re giving too much? Unfortuantely, I think zach_ryder has other plans for Buchholz.<br />
</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000FF;">Posted By: zach ryder</span><br />
<span style="color: #FFFFFF;">The redsox should do this, trade Clay Bucholz and Micheal Bowden for Victor Martinez and then go after a shortstop like Stephen Drew or Jack Wilson and trade Julio Lugo and maybe some cash considerations to even the deal and then the lineup would be: 1. Ellsbury,2 Pedroia,3 Martinez,4 Bay, 5 Youkkkk,6 Lowell,7. Drew,8. Varitek,9. Wilson</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong><br />
Dear zach_ryder, I kind of agree with the first trade. It is doable. But how do you figure we would get a shortstop like Stephen Drew? The other posters seem to think Lugo straight up might do the trick. We may have to eat like 90% of his salary. But I think it&#8217;s a small price to pay. Hope you ALL agree.<br />
</strong></span></p>
<h2>Congratulations to our future RedSox General Managers. Your comments while quite amusing at times, have managed to make us a tad bit dumber.</h2>
<h2>You have all clearly had, A Few Too Many&#8230;</h2>
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<a href="http://www.redsox.com" target="_blank">RedSox.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com" target="_blank">MLBTradeRumors.com</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonny Lester can&#8217;t get his command down, Dice-K has shoulder fatigue from the WBC,  Penny looks like he gets fatigued taking the elevator, and Wakefield is 42 and completely hit or miss&#8230;&#8230; OMFG, Wake he has a no hitter through 8!!! Scratch that last part. Wakefield is fucking Rambo. Just when you think you understand [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Jon Lester" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Lester" target="_blank">Jonny Lester</a> can&#8217;t get his command down, <a title="IamDice-K" href="http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/d02/d02d3c5895b9240e7221626f97259882_l.jpg" target="_blank">Dice-K</a> has shoulder fatigue from the WBC,  <a title="FatGuy" href="http://cache.boston.com/images/bostondirtdogs//BDD_BP_fort_21109_bgjd.jpg">Penny</a> looks like he gets fatigued taking the elevator, and Wakefield is 42 and completely hit or miss&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>OMFG, Wake he has a no hitter through 8!!!</p>
<p>Scratch that last part. Wakefield is fucking Rambo.</p>
<div id="attachment_39" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-39 " title="wakeshot" src="http://www.afewtoomany.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/wake-timlinjog-723656-300x225.jpg" alt="Tim Wakefield. A True warrior." width="300" height="225" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Tim Wakefield. A True warrior.</p></div>
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<div id="attachment_45" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 204px"><img class="size-full wp-image-45" title="RED SOX LITTLE" src="http://www.afewtoomany.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/little_grady1027.jpg" alt="RED SOX LITTLE" width="194" height="194" /><p class="wp-caption-text">I&#39;ll Just leavem&#39; in a little longer. (spits Chew)</p></div>
<p>Just when you think you understand baseball. It will take a huge dump on your stat wielding chest. I was quoted yesterday saying how we should bring up Clay to replace Wake in the rotation. I still wouldn&#8217;t be opposed to that, since Clay would be more interesting to watch. But now I just look silly saying it. Either way congrats Tim. At age 42 you came within 5 outs of your first no hitter. You make us  more confused than this guy in the 03 playoffs&#8212;-&gt;</p>
<p>Since were on the topic of baseball, can we talk about not only how bad the Sox look right now. But also how boring this team is. For being one of  the top tier  payrolls in the MLB. Why is it we have no big  stars to show for it. Yes Ortiz <em>was</em> a star, and will always have a place in our heart for his role in bringing us a championship. However, lets not ignore the fact that he will never ever be the 50 HR guy he was. Our highest paid player on the team is J.D. Drew. Even that&#8217;s  being considered a mistake by Theo and our recently stingy owners.  Whatever happened to the <a href="http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/2003/photos2004/0827/a_ramirez_manny_vt.jpg" target="_blank">Manny&#8217;s</a>, the <a title="Pedro Rules" href="http://lockerroompress.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/bronson_arroyo_boat_bikini_party_9.jpg" target="_blank">Pedro&#8217;s</a>, <a title="ROIDS!!" href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/cover/2002/jinx/00s/030501lg.jpg" target="_blank">Nomah&#8217;s</a>, and the <a title="Big MO" href="http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2007/02/06/1170769501_9465.jpg" target="_blank">Mo Vaughns</a> that would attract you to watch whether they win or loose? Honestly, this team needs to sign a Big bat and do it fast.  If they continue to suck pine like they did last week. There will be almost no reason to watch. I&#8217;m as big a fan of  Youk as the next guy, even though I never thought he would be this good. But if we have him continue to be our biggest bat, this team will fail hard. The same goes for Pedroia and Bay. They&#8217;re great players and I&#8217;m glad we have them. I just wish we had a Manny Type Player to compliment their hard work with <a href="http://www.soxprospects.com/players/ramirez-hanley.htm" target="_blank">mind-blowing</a> natural talent ( Think Grady Sizemore, Ryan Braun, Hanly Ramirez).</p>
<div id="attachment_47" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 226px"><a href="http://www.afewtoomany.com/wp-admin/Tom"><img class="size-medium wp-image-47 " title="OMG" src="http://www.afewtoomany.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/scan0409-216x300.jpg" alt="scan0409" width="216" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Tom Cruise Wakefield</p></div>
<p>Now that the Celtics are without KG for the playoffs. The Sox are all I have for hope of a championship. So please, please Jon Henry, spend some of that 8 dollar Fenway beer money and make something happen. I don&#8217;t care how good our bullpen is. If we never get leads, there will be nothing to save.</p>
<p>And now I  rant!</p>
<p>Fuck the Yankees, Fuck the Rays, fuck winning the World Series! Any real Sox fan isn&#8217;t happiest when we win. They&#8217;re happiest when talking about how good we&#8217;re supposed to be, and how much potential this team has. We can&#8217;t do that until we have really <a title="fuck mark" href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/01062009/photos/teixeira.jpg" target="_blank">outrageously high paid</a>, or complete <a title="Crazy Carl." href="http://cache.boston.com/images/bostondirtdogs//Headline_Archives/everett.jpg" target="_blank">batshit-Crazy</a> players! On that note, does anyone remember being in the bleachers yelling &#8220;Crazy Carl!&#8221; at fenway to our own player? I fucking miss those days. We should have kept Izzy Alcantra just for shock value.</p>
<p><strong><em>SIDE NOTE-</em></strong> I went to spring training 2 springs ago, and my brother spent the whole time yelling at Manny in left field. Saying stuff like &#8221; do something funny Manny&#8221;, or to &#8221; do a cartwheel&#8221;,  and&#8221; you look like Krusty the Clown&#8221;. Keep in mind this was after he sold his <a title="Oh Many" href="http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070320&amp;content_id=1852512&amp;vkey=spt2007news&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=bos" target="_blank">neighbors grill on ebay</a>. That was the start of Manny being Manny. Not Manny loving money like we have now.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;. What the fuck was I talking about?</p>
<div id="attachment_50" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-50 " title="timmah" src="http://www.afewtoomany.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pirtwpew2-300x211.jpg" alt="timmah" width="300" height="211" /><p class="wp-caption-text">One more for good measure.</p></div>
<p>Oh ya, congrats Tim. You still bore me though&#8230; And this teams about as interesting as Penny is fat.</p>
<p><em>(Editor Note) Ok this team is pretty good. But we do need a  bat, and they still do bore me to death.</em></p>
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